Scott Le Duc at the Deming Institute at CedarBrook Lodge in 2015
Notes I took at the conference
- Day 1
- 8:15 – Early Morning Session
- Kevin Cahill
- Deming’s grandson
- Common Sense
- Decisions were made on common sense
- Need to look at problems differently
- Videos
- David Langford – Why Deming in Education
- 0:13 Video of Mt. Edgecumbe High School
- 11:05 Deming’s 3 principles he always started with
- Have fun
- Learning something
- Make a difference
- 13:00 Quality is about the transformation of the individual
- Don’t just get rid of the bad ones
- He told the story of his school
- When you get a hammer, everything looks like a nail
- Attended Deming seminars
- Deming: People have a right to joy in their work
- Students have a right to joy in their learning
- Deming: Move from extrinsic motivations to intrinsic
- 25:58 EXERCISE: Trace hand on a piece of paper – PROFOUND LEARNING
- One needs to have profound knowledge before they make real change

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- 27:40 System
- What system are we working within?
- Do they empower or neutralize power?
- Seldom do we ask what is wrong with this system that is producing poor results? – Change it!
- In the name of trying to make things better, often make it worse – don’t create games for kids to play in a system
- 28:57 Theory
- What is your theory of education?
- Many people don’t have a clear theory
- Many theories are based on unfounded ideas
- “Bonus” thinking narrows: What do I need to do to get an “A”?
- Dr. Deming said most people don’t know what their job is
- STORY: Tardy Czar at Texas high school
- STORY: Where do we get numbers for tardies, consequences, etc. – Deming answered: séances (Joke: Langford called them board meetings)
- What is the grading scale based upon? Is it a game? Play the game or else
- Langford’s son’s rationale that he could go skiing 9 times during a semester
- 37:40 Variation
- What does data-driven mean?
- What is the data telling you?
- What are going to do with it?
- Where is it coming from?
- Do we understand the variability within the data?
- What’s the average performance?
- JOKE: Many teachers have taken a vow of statistical abstinence
- JOKE: Teacher says, ‘I don’t do numbers.”
- 39:32 Psychology
- Do we really understand the psychological effects of our policies?
- Tardy policies – 3 absences allowed – why?
- Why are we learning this?
- If we say to pass the test, it’s not learning, it’s the game of school
- Fundamental attribution error
- attributing a fault or defect to the individual without first understanding what is going on systemically
- Easy to blame the students for being unmotivated and failure
- There really isn’t extrinsic motivation, it’s extrinsic activation
- An individual can be activated if the punishment or reward is strong enough
- As soon as the activation is taken away the behavior goes right back to where it was before
- Humans are born with about 100 billion neurons
- The brain will only make neural connections for survival
- Cramming for the test is short-term survival
- 44:22 Brain Research
- Neural Science and Deming video (4:25) – JW Wilson
- JW Wilson presents activating the learning code in the video toward the bottom of this blog post
- Where are the students going after they leave school?
- We want students who will add value to society
- When Langford started at Mt. Edgecombe only 2% of students who graduated finished college
- When he left the school they were up to 60% and recently he said they were to 80%
- Developing student capacity to be successful is the goal
- Some universities have freshmen dropout rates as high as 60-70%
- Students don’t know how to think, plan, change situations, or adapt to the current situation
- Sample Hand at Instagram
- I drew mine backward, systems should be on the thumb
- 50:26 EXERCISE: Trace the other hand – INTRINSIC MOTIVATION
- How do you change extrinsic motivation into intrinsic motivation so people want to do the work?

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- 51:15 Naval Academy story – because it will be on the test
- 53:59 EXERCISE: Try to move the person next to you with one finger
- Doesn’t work
- Take all fingers and make a fist
- Now you can make someone move
- This is what happens in systems
- If you change only one thing (one finger) it’s hard to make a change, but with all parts (fist) you can make a change
- 55:34 Control / Autonomy
- Teachers can be control freaks
- Langford was a band teacher
- Drive out fear
- No public humiliation
- Fear is an extrinsic motivation
- Most asked questions: All student questions come to
- What are we doing?
- How are we doing it?
- Why are we doing this?
- The Deming way is to think, how can I run the class so kids don’t have to ask these questions
- Ungrateful (Students/Teachers) Syndrome
- Stop planning FOR people and start planning WITH them
- Takes, at a minimum, 19 days to break a neural network pattern, habit
- Whole lot more fun to plan WITH people, not FOR them
- Shift the workload to everyone, not just you
- 1:03:36 Cooperation
- Ask the question: Do we need other people to get results?
- We need other people to get results
- Cooperation is built into the human genome
- If you want to see people get much more intrinsically motivated, change the cooperation level
- QUESTION: Do you actually need other people to reach your result?
- Traditionally in education, we isolate students
- Deming said if you want to achieve at a much higher level, teach people to cooperate at a much higher level
- Took Michael Jordan 5 to 6 years to realize that he was on a team
- Mt. Edgecombe did integrated projects across departments that had long-term results
- Robot basketball doubled student interest in the program, STEM before STEM
- Early Internet messaging to help each other
- Special needs students learned to advocate for themselves and ask for help
- 1:09:39 Support
- STORY: Employee of the Month story
- Don’t have student/employee of the month
- Outcome: 1 winner and 999 losers
- Help kids master work
- Support attends/failure
- Otherwise, students give up
- Want them to try and be rewarded for trying by helping to get better
- QUESTION: Do we have some method for communicating how students are doing?
- 5 – 10% of kids getting good grades are the ones motivated by grades
- 90% it is not a motivator
- Kids de-motivate by saying, ‘What do I need to do to get a “C”
- They may love sports/music/arts and want to work in their gifted area to get grades so they can keep doing what they love
- Stop working with words like DEADLINES – has the word DEAD in it
- Turn deadlines into TARGET DATES
- What happens if you don’t meet the target date – YOU GET… HELP! 🙂
- Understand the neural science – time is the only variable to success
- 1:17:19 Meaning
- Is it meaningful?
- If it’s not meaningful, people don’t care
- If you understand the student’s MEANING NETWORK, you can tie a lot to it
- EXAMPLE: 4 ft 9-inch passionate basketball player – can tie statistics and other sophisticated math
- Why are we doing this / learning this?
- EXAMPLE: Naval Academy cheating scandal
- What would cause 165 students to cheat?
- Not defective people, it’s a defective system
- Students ranked 1 to 1000
- Rank results in the quality of the post-school assignment
- EXAMPLE: Retirement center writing project each year
- High level of meaning for the community, people, and students
- Need to connect with student interests for them to find meaning
- 1:21:44 Challenge
- Is the work challenging?
- Set too high or low and it demotivates
- The teacher should be teaching students how manage their own pace and challenge as they go
- It’s the student’s challenge to meet the target date
- It’s the student’s challenge to meet the high level of standards
- The student is going through that
- Teach students to use Gantt charts, flow charts, and other processes and ways to manage the workload, portfolio assessments, etc.
- The teacher is going to help the student manage this
- The whole time students are in a highly cooperative environment, too for more support
- AND the student is going to have control over the process
- Sample Hand at Flickr
- VIDEO: Deming talking about motivation
- VIDEO: Key & Peele – TeachingCenter
- Break 10:10 – 15
- 10:25 – Late Morning Session
- Jane Kovacs and Michael King
- Lunch 11:45 – 1:00
- 1:00 Early Afternoon
- Bone Diagram introduced
- Christine Simpson (Middle School) and Sarah Ambrus (High School) from Leander SD Austin, TX
- Jake Rodgers and Phyllis Tubbs
- Principal at Gold Bar Elementary
- Jake shared his love of data charts
- Break 3:15-3:30
- 3:30 – Late Afternoon
- Day 2
- 8:30 Early Morning Session
- Break 10:20
- 10:35 – Late Morning Session
- JW Wilson – Executive Director, Advanced Learning Institute